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Post by Cassini90125 on Apr 29, 2006 20:28:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm still scratching my head about that bit with the dog. I would guess that his creator had one or more, and dogs are something he's used to.
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Post by Sparky on Apr 29, 2006 23:29:03 GMT -5
It's also funny how Eduardo often is NOT scared of the things you'd expect him to be-like dogs, for example. He was terrified of that cat rubbing against him in "Eddie Monster", but not of a huge slobbery dog that happened to be of the same breed as "Cujo"! He also wasn't the least bit unnerved by all the dramatics of "Challenge of the Superfriends"-just kept right on munching his cereal the whole time! He loves stuffed little animals, but a SOCK on the floor in "Dinner is Swerved" nearly gave him a heart attack(and Wilt a hernia, LOL)! PBL, you've never had a parrot, have you? Ed reminds me of my parrot. Kiwi's scared of a speck on the ceiling but she tries to kill like, giant balls rolling towards her, that she *should* be scared of. She used to love phones but now she hates them. One day she'll eat carrots the next OMG they're going to KILL her and she must FLY AWAY!!! She'll be perfectly calm sitting next to a person and then they'll put a hat on and it's the end of the world. I don't even bat an eye at Ed's reactions.
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Post by One Radical Dude on Apr 30, 2006 4:06:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm still scratching my head about that bit with the dog. I would guess that his creator had one or more, and dogs are something he's used to. I don't see why this wouldn't be true. Ed loves dogs, but is terrified of cats. Interesting.
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Post by CG on May 1, 2006 0:16:06 GMT -5
Well in 'Eddie Monster' Eduardo probably felt a tad more vulnerable to things then normal. He had just ran away from home after all, and everything suddenly felt all more terrifying then normal. I mean heck, a leaf? But unfortunately I haven't seen every single Foster's episode like the rest of you guys, so I don't know if he's had any other interaction with cats. Personally if I was as much fearful of things as Eduardo is normally, suddenly finding yourself alone in the world everything would seem more scary to me.
As for Challenge of the Superfriends (still haven't seen it, going from what I read here by PBL), you gotta remember he's got the mind of a child. He sees colourful super heroes and super villians duking it out, of course he'd see it like a television show. Only if he himself got hurt would he realise it was really happen. Then run away crying. Who knows.
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Post by Cassini90125 on May 1, 2006 8:50:38 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure he's had no prior encounters with cats, at least not on the show. There is a cat-based IF at the house (seen in "World Wide Wabbit") that he must have seen around here and there.
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Post by CG on May 1, 2006 18:22:52 GMT -5
In Land of the Flea he passes two feline-like IF's scratching a scratching post. But they didn't look MUCH like cats... unless you count the cyclops kitten. Since one of those cats had one eye. [who i might add Bloo tried to 'save' in Phone Home, yet look here it is in season three! for shame, the girl DID abandon it]
Eh, trying to figure out the meanings behind Eduardo's fears would be near impossible.
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Post by idril on May 2, 2006 13:02:36 GMT -5
In Land of the Flea he passes two feline-like IF's scratching a scratching post. But they didn't look MUCH like cats... unless you count the cyclops kitten. Since one of those cats had one eye. [who i might add Bloo tried to 'save' in Phone Home, yet look here it is in season three! for shame, the girl DID abandon it] Eh, trying to figure out the meanings behind Eduardo's fears would be near impossible. Whoa, I guess I'm not the only one who noticed that! =D
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Post by Sparky on May 2, 2006 13:13:15 GMT -5
I didn't notice that. SHAME!!!
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Post by taranchula on May 2, 2006 14:53:12 GMT -5
I noticed, you can't really forget anything like a "Cy-cat" now can you?
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Post by kageri on May 2, 2006 17:38:27 GMT -5
That kinda reminds me of that kitten that was born a while back with only one eye, like a cyclops. It died, it was really sad....
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Post by CG on May 2, 2006 18:47:05 GMT -5
That's why I called it Cyclops Kitten! I'm smrat. And yes, I noticed that too! Poor kitty. Least it has a living scratchpost now. Maybe it got abandoned cuz it destroyed everything with it's claws.
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Meanwhile, back on Eduardo. I've been thinking more then usual (and ow my brainmeats pain!) about just how this big fuzzy scaredy cat came into being and I've got my own theroy (like I do with Wilt) but it's not a 'omg this is HOW it happened no arguements'. Just my own take on it.
Now for me, I believe Eduardo came from Central America. His accent is hard to pick up, but based on some of the points brought up by Pitbulllady over in the Accents/Dialects post, I'll be saying he came from Hondurus. Or around near abouts. Now it's been stated his creator was a little girl; let's think. Why would a little girl think up some big scary looking Imaginary Friend? He's no Extreme-A-Saur, that's for sure, but just looking at him you'd think he was built to be a Guardian right off the bat. He has the build to protect, and could easily scare off anyone who did intend to do harm.
But was she afraid of everything, or was he created almost subconciously to be a voice of reason to her? That's confusing for me. Quite easily a little girl living in Hondurus could be afraid of so many things, so out of desperation for something to protect her from 'things that go bump in the night' Eduardo could have been created. But then, why would he be so afraid if he was built to protect and only that?
She could have been a 'rough 'n tumble' girl. Little bit of a tomboy. Climbing trees, trying to capture snakes to make into pets, that sort of thing. She'd be doing activities in which she could get hurt. And almost subconciously Eduardo was created one day, given his appearance she wanted something cool looking. And gotta admit, he looks pretty cool. Skulls are always kewl, as are horns. Plus he might have been inspired by Minotaurs of ancient Greek Mythology but that's another thing all together.
So Eduardo was created, and finds himself with a little girl who he almost always is worrying over. I can see him circling beneath a tree while she's climbing it, worrying about her if she should fall. Now, given Eduardo's terrified of almost everything now, I think his fears slowly increased over time. He spent so much time day after day worrying and watching out for her, it slowly became who he was. No longer was he just cautious, but terrified of any and everything. Easily spooked and being so big can't be a good thing for anyone.
Eventually his family came to cross the boarder and Eduardo was greeted with American lifestyle. Dramatically different to his surroundings in Hondurus. If you thought he was scared of things there - whoa baby. American life didn't agree with Eduardo, and maybe that's how he came to be left at Foster's home for Imaginary Friends. His family just couldn't handle him anymore.
But then there's my idea that Eduardo witnessed something terrible happen to his little girl; thus bringing on his fears and he could have been found cowering in a street for all we know.
Either way there's some peeks into my ideas. I am indeed looking forward to Good Wilt Hunting since I really do want to see Eduardo's creator. Somewhere it said she's now grown up. Grown up, but what age? 20-something could be grown up, to Mac at least. Eduardo might be pushing the 17-19 age rank if he was created when his girl was like 5 or 6. Way to hang onto his childlike wonderment, ey?
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Post by pitbulllady on May 2, 2006 19:13:12 GMT -5
We do know that Eduardo was created by a little girl, and quite likely, she lived in a very scary world, where drug lords ruled and violence was commonplace, but it's just as likely that she, like many little girls, loved playing dress-up and playing with dolls and adored frilly, pretty little-girlie things. That would explain why Eduardo, with his childlike mind, loves stuffed toy animals and having his fur groomed and the color pink. He would not have been a very good playmate for a little girl if he was TOO macho, now would he? As for why he's afraid of everything, that can be explained by simply knowing how human children learn to fear things: they learn from their parents. Either intentionally or unintentionally, parents can make cowering phobics out of their own kids. It's been proven that humans have no instinctive fear of snakes, for example, but at some point, most human children learn to fear snakes through the examples set by their parents and other influential adults. Eduardo's creator obviously created him to be a protector against these scary things that troubled her, but she also apparently created him to think and act like a young child, so he would be a great playmate. He simply picked up on her fears, and quite likely, they became more pronounced in him. It's obvious that this is most likely why he was eventually given up to Foster's, or abandoned outright-his fearful behavior combined with his immense size and strength make him a liability, the proverbial bull in the China shop, so to speak. We have seen the damage he's done at Foster's during one of his panic attacks, so you can imagine that same force let loose in a small, modest home.
As for his appearance, that should be obvious to anyone familiar with Latino culture. The bull is a very powerful symbolic animal to many Latinos, representing strength, courage and fighting spirit, and also in some ways, representing wild, untamed nature. This is why bullfights are still the most popular sporting attraction in many areas of Latin America; they are sybolic of Man ritualistically conquering that untamed aspect of Nature through the act of a Matador slaying the most brave and powerful of beasts. If a child is afraid, and wanted to create an Imaginary Friend to stand up to those fears, it would make sense to choose the image of a bull for that IF.
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Post by CG on May 2, 2006 19:27:32 GMT -5
Yes, I do know that. You see, in the massive role play/story I've been doing with Prince Fala we make often references to Matadors, and Eduardo's resemblance to that of a Bull. And in that story, Eduardo was created by a little girl who was afraid of so many things. Of course in that story she came from Ecuador, but that was chosen by Prince Fala.
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Post by Sparky on May 2, 2006 21:26:58 GMT -5
I'm not trying to change the subject - you guys keep going - I just wanted to post this because it is about Ed. Back *before* I started doing screencaps, I heard a rumor that there was a toy in Mac's closet that looked like Ed in House of Bloo's. It was discredited numerous times. When I started doing screencaps I made it a point to look for it, but didn't see it, so assumed it was, in fact, a false rumor. Well, it's not. I bet some of you knew this, but I sure didn't! There IS an Eduardo plushie in Mac's room in HOB - plain as day, it's *definately* an Ed plushie. Thing is, it's not IN Mac's closet, it's outside it, and you only see it for a MOMENT, when Mac's peeping through his closet door at the key - before we zoom in on the key on the nightstand we can see the plushie on the floor next to the skateboard. I caught this earlier today when there was a question about the time on the clock on the nightstand in that scene, and I took a cap of it. See?Again, sorry to look stupid for those of you who already new this. But it's news to me. Anyways, if there's a plushie that looks just like Ed, maybe Ed's creator based him on a plushie *she* had, if she had the same one. OR, there's a really great story floating around how Eduardo inspired a line of his own toys!
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Post by CG on May 2, 2006 22:41:59 GMT -5
I too noticed that! I joked that maybe Mac's Mom was Eduardo's creator way early on when I saw it. His creator was a girl, who is grown up, and then Mac's Mom talks about how she had an Imaginary Friend when she was little too.
I love that plushie too, button eyes are always so cute. :3
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