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Post by kageri on Jul 4, 2006 23:47:44 GMT -5
Thank you. Yes, I do, in extremely large blocks of text.
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Post by Beavergard Q. Kazoo on Jul 5, 2006 11:21:46 GMT -5
Wow, I dunno about the rest of you, but my ego feels bigger. It sounds like Ms. Kageri, as a rule, avoids fanfiction at all costs, so it's so GREAT to know she read mine Anyhoo, I totally agree about romance sometimes cluttering the story, Sparky. Unless the characters in the show display signs of liking each romantically, it's annoying to read fanfictions saying 'OOH, THEY LOVE EACHOTHER'. It's esspecially annoying reading something like ZADR (Zim and Dib romance, for you non-fanfiction-term-savvy), Elricest, EdRoy, Mac x Bloo, or Zutara, and feeling the urge to scream since it feels like the person doesn't even watch the show if they're coming up with such assumptions. There are some kids' shows that contain pairings, such as Avatar and KND. I find pairings presented in the actual show cute, because they are written by adults who know more about romance than a hormonal teen would...well, usually, anyhow. For example, I find Aang and Katara's relationship esspecially interesting because Aang doesn't INSTANTLY know what to do or say to get Katara to notice his feelings for her, like many fanfiction characters do. Also like a person in love, he tends to say or do the wrong thing, and end up tangling everything up. Frankie/Wilt...I dunno. I really, REALLY liked 'Every Picture Tells a Story'. I have yet to finish 'That Which We Seek Most'. I'll look into it.
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Post by emma on Jul 5, 2006 12:33:20 GMT -5
As a rule, I don't like friend/human relationships. Something in my brain makes the connection between friends and pets (which I know is inaccurate, but regardless) and that...well, that's a whole other can of worms...
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Post by SkittleMonkey on Jul 5, 2006 12:39:12 GMT -5
Every Picture Tells a Story was ESPECIALLY good, in my opinion! I loved how everybody was in-character. You don't find that much anymore.
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Post by emma on Jul 5, 2006 12:42:33 GMT -5
I did like Every Picture Tells A Story and decided to read it because of the great things I heard about it. It's one of the few stories I've read on once I realized that it features a pairing I'm not that weirds me out a bit. Very good story, that one.
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Post by kageri on Jul 5, 2006 12:46:32 GMT -5
I often make that connection too (even though I wish I didn't because I know full well that they are not animals), although it doesn't help that Bloo's two main goals in life are to constantly be noticed and fed often. And also possibly to become a dictator.
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Post by emma on Jul 5, 2006 12:52:21 GMT -5
And also possibly to become a dictator. I know that's my cat's goal. He's pretty much succeeded in taking over the house...
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Post by princefala on Jul 5, 2006 17:49:33 GMT -5
You knew I was going to reply to this post. You had to see it coming, really One of the first things I like to tell people about myself is that I like lots of different things. And it's true. Granted, there are a lot of things I don't like (especially in fandom), but my tastes cover a wide range. I like and support both hetero and slash pairings. I like both comedy and angst in equal measure. I like male characters and female characters (especially in this series. The Foster's lasses are ace ^_^) I have a head for romance and I favour love over sex, but I feel that there is room for both in a relationship. Also, I would like to make something abundantly clear; "Slash" does NOT always mean sexual. Full stop. I can not stress how very weary I have grown of people thinking that homosexuality automatically equals shagging. Same-gender romances can be (and are) every bit as . . . well, romantic as heterosexual ones. I have done both mature and G-rated male/male fanfiction and fanart which I classify as "slash." For me, the term simply refers to two boys or two girls doing the things that any other pair would do. . . . And for your information, while this Wilt/Eduardo fan did enjoy the bedroom scene in "Room With A feud," it was not so much for the fact that Wilt ran to answer a cry for help as he is expected to do, but for the shy smile and cute little nod Eduardo gave in responce to Wilt's offer to stay with him. It was cute, it made me smile, and it was completely nonsexual. At least for me. That said, I really don't think I need to justify my choices in pairings, either hetero or slash (and yes, I do support examples of both in the Foster's fandom). . . . Actually, I think I'm going to eat my words. The real bottom line here is treat your fandom like you treat Christmas dinner at your grandmother's: Don't like it? Don't eat it. But do try something new here and there for variety's sake. Thank you for your time. ~ The Prince
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Post by Beavergard Q. Kazoo on Jul 5, 2006 17:57:45 GMT -5
Thank you! I was hoping for another side on the issue about this! It's no fun with just one side. Thank you, Ms. Fala.
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Post by CG on Jul 5, 2006 18:05:54 GMT -5
And let's also not focus on pairings that make us bleed. It's nice to discuss good pairings sometimes too. What some people consider good makes others bleed and vice versa, Beaver. Take me for example. OC's in Foster's annoy me. They really do. I think the show already has such a wide array of character's of different types I doubt you could think up anyone else TO settle in there without being a rip off, Mary/Gary Stu or a waste of space. Or self insertion. I am really not fond of that, when someone pretty much puts themselves into the stories to live our fantasties. There's really no imagination on it, and given we're atm dealing with a show BASED on imagination. . . hello irony. Wilt is a big choice for relationships, and I'm not that surprised. He's a very well likeable character, and obviously has attracted a lot of attention from people. Even physical attraction, but that's another thing all together. He's had his fair share of OC's (from furry friends to other types), Frankie, Eduardo, even TERRANCE in a few fanarts I've seen. Personally speaking, I don't see Wilt really ending up romantically involved with Frankie. True, the two have a great relationship given Wilt probably helped raise her in the house, and she's someone he can go to and talk to about sensitive issues but nothing more then that. OC's for Wilt tend to be unimaginative from what I've seen in fics and art, and it just makes me all the more sadder for the fandom. Of course you all know my stance on Wilt/Eduardo, which I've gotten banter from throughout the net. Be it from fanfiction.net, deviantart, even here. I'm not sorry that I like the idea of the two having an esentially close friendship that has obviously lasted through the years. I like them as friends, but also as romantic friends. Or even Ed just having a lil' boy crush on the tall red guy. It's just cute. I LIKE it. Course some say Eduardo's not mentally developed enough to be romantically involved with anyone. Well let me point out, he's quite old. And even if his feelings for anyone wouldn't go any further then a crush, he should be intitled to it. Little kids get crushes on authority figures all the time. I had one on my 3rd grade teacher. But I'm getting away from my point, if I do have any at all. Pairings come in all shapes and sizes. I'm mostly seeing negative views in this thread, about what people don't like and why. I'm happy for you guys that you have everything so well thought out and know what's good and bad. But what's bad to you, is good to others. I'll keep to my pairings, you keep to yours. And try not to voice out the hate too much, okay? Stones hurt.
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Post by emma on Jul 5, 2006 18:25:42 GMT -5
I totally agree with you on the Mary Sue/Gary Stu issue CG, self inserts seem to have a sole purpose: To fulifil the author's fantasies. I don't get how other people can get enjoyment out of them, but they do. And, as for you and princefala's tastes. You guys are totally cool people, and I respect your reasoning behind whatever pairings you believe in. As long as you guys enjoy your respective pairings, I'm sure other's will feel the same. It's totally cool with me. One thing that I would like to make clear, just in general, is that (although I usually do not like slash pairings) I am not homophobic in any way shape or form and do not treat homosexual relationships any differently than heterosexual ones. I have a large number of gay friends, have participated as a "bridesmaid", of sorts, in a commitment ceremony and recently got back from the Pride parade in DC. This isn't being directed at anyone, I just want to let people know that I don't have any predetermined labels for slash fanfiction. I actually make a point to read a few of the (good) slash fictions whenever I get into a fandom to see if I might like it. So far, I haven't. It's become abundently clear to me that I am a canon freak, and since homosexual relationships are hardly ever present in the types of shows I'm interested in, it just isn't my preferred story type (in fact, I'm not a fan of romance in general. I'm a gen kinda girl). That is my reasoning behind my distaste for most slash, not to do with the orientation so much as the canon. Just needed to get that across.
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Post by antgirl1 on Jul 5, 2006 21:43:55 GMT -5
...Ok, I just saw that you mentioned me in there. Why? Did I do something wrong...again? I'm not famous, and...if ytou really need to know...Yo-yo (my OC) isn't Wilt's girlfriend...they're twins. But they don't know it yet in my story.
Yes, I'm a bad writer. Maybe writing just isn't my thing. Sometimes I feel that the internet is full of bad people who only put others down.
I know this is off topic, but I had to say this.
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Post by emma on Jul 5, 2006 22:13:22 GMT -5
I don't think she was mentioning you in a negative way, antgirl. I think she just wanted to clarify that, while she has encountered many poorly written OC characters (which really can have any relationship to the canon characters, not only romantic) she hasn't read your stories completely and therefore can't pass judgement on yours. She wasn't commenting on your characters all. In fact, I think she was excluding them from her post about OCs as a gesture of politeness (again, I think...I didn't write the post). And also, don't be so hard on yourself. I have read your fic over at fanfiction.net once I realized it was you who wrote it. You have potential. Please don't give up. Nothing makes me sadder. I'm not the best artist or writer, but as time goes on I slowly get better. You just have to push yourself. You're going to have to deal with mean people eventually, if not on the internet than somewhere else. If you never try because you fear rejection: who wins?
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Post by Beavergard Q. Kazoo on Jul 6, 2006 1:49:53 GMT -5
What some people consider good makes others bleed and vice versa, Beaver. Hence this comment: Thank you! I was hoping for another side on the issue about this! It's no fun with just one side. Thank you, Ms. Fala. I'll tell you this, CG-sama. I don't want you to get the impression I'm saying you're a bad author. Your style rocks out loud like Bloo doing an air guitar riff. I just don't care for Wilt/Ed slash fics. They don't appeal to me, as I see Wilt as Eduardo's older brother/guardian. It's not wrong for feelings to develop over time, and maybe Ed DOES have a kiddy crush on Wilt. Hm...I don't much care for OC x Cannon Character romances. They seem 2-demensional most times, mostly based on 'You're cute'. While a relationship can always start that way, having relationships SOLEY based on looks is really...dumb. While Wilt is a great guy, I think he should stay single...unless a REALLY fitting girl comes along.
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Post by ch3353h4xx0rrrrr on Jul 6, 2006 1:54:50 GMT -5
Coco needs a friend.
Oh, wait, nevermind; she has that lamp... thing! XD
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