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Post by Sparky on Jul 13, 2005 21:51:27 GMT -5
...It's a character, right? So how about the old argument: is the House itself an imginary friend? Sounds silly but Dinner is Swerved seems to suggest otherwise. And how about this evidence: www.theneitherworld.com/fosters/screengrabs/1-10Bloooo/110-0028.jpgWhat kind of kid creates a WALL as an imaginary friend?? Oh sure, I suppose like, a construction worker might have made him but...seems awfully suspicious to me!
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 13, 2005 22:46:20 GMT -5
LOL! I guess the kid who created a wall as an Imaginary Friend was one who liked a lot of privacy, but never got any. Maybe he/she lived in an apartment with a bunch of other people, one of those "extended family" things, and probably had to share a room with lots of siblings or cousins. Or, maybe his/her parents fought a lot, and the kid just wanted something to keep out all the fuss, a barrier between himself and the unpleasant world.
But, yeah, I guess the house IS a character, since it does sort of follow its own rules of physics, where you can go downstairs and STILL end up back on the roof! When I was a kid, one of my grandmother's closest friends lived about a half-mile from where I am now, in this huge old Victorian house that looked a lot like the Foster's mansion(it burned down many years ago, sadly), and I got lost in that thing once, when my grandmother took me over for a visit when I was around four years old. I can remember going down one hallway after another, and ending up right back where I'd started. I was trying to catch one of the lady's Persian cats, and this cat would keep appearing out of doorways in front of me, leading me on, and I kept getting more and more lost, and more and more panicky. I can certainly appreciate where Mac and Bloo's desparation was coming from in that episode!
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Post by Lizard-Girl Buscemi-Boggs on Jul 14, 2005 12:34:32 GMT -5
Wow...I've never thought of that! So, if the house is a friend, anything can be a friend! Maybe the whole UNIVERSE is a friend!
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Post by Teddog on Jul 14, 2005 21:17:59 GMT -5
I'm a member of the "House is an Imaginary Friend" club. The already wacky physics of the place aside, there's also the matter that it seems almost bigger on the inside than it appears on the outside. Kinda like the TARDIS from Doctor Who. It also reminds me a lot of (in)famous Winchester Mystery House, not so much in appearence than the twisting hallways and strange staircases that are seen in a few episodes.
Of course, that leaves the question as to who created it. I was thinking that it might have been Madame Foster herself, since we know that people can have multiple imaginary friends. Terrance, for example. Plus, imagining a house would be a heck of a lot cheaper than paying for one.
If you want a slightly deeper idea to explain the house, maybe the house isn't the result of one person's ideas, but of several, resulting in a bit of a mess. This could explain the strange physics, the random dead ends and the maze-like hallways. Perhaps the finer details of the house are created by the imaginary friends themselves in order to help them deal with the pain and uncertainty caused by abandonment.
Has it been said before if imaginary friends can or can't create imaginary friends themselves?
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 14, 2005 22:04:27 GMT -5
You know, I actually did think of the famous(or infamous, depending on your perspective)Winchester House when I saw "Dinner is Swerved". I didn't know if anyone else would have ever even heard of it, though, but I guess that the Travel Channel and other Discovery networks have made it pretty well-known.
Boy, wouldn't it be nice to be able to just imagine your own house, though? Then again, it would put a real hurtin' on the economy, since it depends so much on housing sales! I guess the government would have to find some more people to just imagine up some more money, if that's the case!
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Post by Sparky on Jul 14, 2005 23:06:59 GMT -5
It was because of the Winchester House that I decided, until they say otherwise, that for fanfic purposes I place Mac's town in the San Jose area - later eps provided evidence that they are indeed in California, though possibly further south. I love the idea of why someone might create an imaginary friend that's a wall, thanks PBL. They haven't said specifically if an IF can create an IF, so maybe...but I vote no. And yes people can have multiple IFs - I thought maybe after Terrence ate Pizza and then created Red that maybe people can only have 1 at a time (which would help answer my question about can the world be overrun with IFs) but if that were so, people would have figured it out by now and it would be common knowledge, and Mac wouldn't have even thought that he might have made Cheese. So I'd say, yes, people can have multiple IFs. (Who else has multiple IFs in the show, I'm drawing a blank.)
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 14, 2005 23:39:47 GMT -5
California? I thought the show was based in upstate New York. They mention Schenectady, specifically, in "World Wide Wabbit", and there are coniferous trees that look like stylized fir trees all over the place, and those are common in upstate New York, so that's why I figured it was there that the show took place. I could be wrong, since that is circumstantial evidence at best.
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Post by Sparky on Jul 15, 2005 10:15:34 GMT -5
I did miss the Schenectady reference. One thing that tipped me off was in Cookie Dough, where Mac mentions that its the "dead of winter" yet is obviously hasn't snowed anytime recently, and is raining - but I have lived in CA all my life and don't really know what an East Coast winter looks like. And in Sweet Stench of Success the gang are watching a live TV broadcast from Hollywood and they *arrive* at the studio in like, fifteen minutes - but then that could just be cartoon physics at work.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 15, 2005 12:09:21 GMT -5
I did miss the Schenectady reference. One thing that tipped me off was in Cookie Dough, where Mac mentions that its the "dead of winter" yet is obviously hasn't snowed anytime recently, and is raining - but I have lived in CA all my life and don't really know what an East Coast winter looks like. And in Sweet Stench of Success the gang are watching a live TV broadcast from Hollywood and they *arrive* at the studio in like, fifteen minutes - but then that could just be cartoon physics at work. Even though it didn't snow in "Cookie Dough", it DID freeze; Bloo's lemonade had frozen solid in the pitcher, so he couldn't even pour it into the glass. I wouldn't imagine they'd see many sub-freezing temperatures in southern California. I guess if we ever DO see an episode where it snows, that'll pretty much let us know that the show doesn't take place there. And, yeah, the "Sweet Stench of Success" probably WAS "Cartoon physics"(or what some of us call a "plot hole") OR it could have been being broadcast live via satallite from Hollywood studio, but was still being performed in NY. pitbulllady
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Post by imaginaryxlight on Jul 15, 2005 12:23:25 GMT -5
I never really thought of the house as an imaginary friend, until "Dinner is Swerved", but then again I thought it was just Bloo talking crazy talk again. I started reading theories about the house being an IF, and then when I saw "Blooo" and saw that wall that was an IF, I was wondering if the house really was an IF. It does seem bigger on the inside than it is on the outside, but I've noticed that kind of thing in lots of cartoons. And Teddog-I was really excited when you broght up the Winchester House, since it really intriques me And this leads me to wonder...what if this house is really as odd as the Winchester House, since I think it was "Dinner is Swerved", Bloo was opening up all of those doors, and behind them were odd rooms (I remeber one just being bubbles I think?). Granted, I don't think we've actually seem any doors that lead to nowhere, or staircases that lead to a ceiling, but maybe we'll start seeing more odd things like that.
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Post by Lizard-Girl Buscemi-Boggs on Jul 16, 2005 11:19:50 GMT -5
But if anyone could create an IF house, then surely that's what everyone would do, instead of actually building them? But Mac's apartment seems normal enough, so maybe there's a certain restriction as to who can create imagenary houses, among other things. Maybe only certain people have that ability.
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Post by Teddog on Jul 16, 2005 22:49:29 GMT -5
I don't know if it's just funny or freaky that we've all thought of the Winchester House. Oh, and Imaginaryxlight, the doors Bloo opened in "Dinner is Swerved" lead to bubbles, a speeding train and what looked like a brick wall. So, there was a door to nowhere.
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Post by imaginaryxlight on Jul 19, 2005 11:34:12 GMT -5
Oh, and Imaginaryxlight, the doors Bloo opened in "Dinner is Swerved" lead to bubbles, a speeding train and what looked like a brick wall. So, there was a door to nowhere. Oh, how could I forget? It's been so long since I've seen that episode.
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Post by Sparky on Jul 21, 2005 21:49:18 GMT -5
Two updates to the question of where does the show take place: 1) Lauren Faust (again, if it's really her) claims that if there is a specific location, that it is the upper northwest US and 2) in Adoptaclypse Now, when Eduardo is talking to the little girl (Jenny) who's considering adopting him, she's talking about all the fun stuff they can do at her house, and one is "to go sledding when it snows". So. Apparently it does indeed snow wherever they are. (Agreed that she MAY mean a trip to the mountains, but...she doesn't specify so I'd assume not.) I just wanted to share, and feel like I'm not wasting my time when I go through episodes sometimes frame by frame doing screencaps.
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Post by pitbulllady on Jul 21, 2005 22:29:37 GMT -5
I started to post that, but you beat me to it! Yeah, now that she mentioned that, the trees, the mountains in the distance, and the climate do suggest the Pacific Northwest, like Washington state. Obviously the different IF's come from all over the country, or even the world, judging by their varies accents.
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